Thank you so much. And the wonderful smell I remember the Coffee place & it wasnt Home & Colonial.. that was a few doors up!! Hi Gerry, Im nearly retired and living in Australia, you may remember my father Aubrey Todd who ran Kelvin Photos. I was born in Southgate in October 1936 and lived with my parents at 6 Tintern Gardens until September 1956, when they moved to Willingdon, Eastbourne. Many years later when I was adult he told me what he saw. I suppose the range of shops in every High St has changed so much these days because almost everyone has a car, fridges and freezers and generally shop only once or twice a week, whereas when I was young, people shopped every day and had to walk to the shops for fresh produce. Yes, definitely Tottenhall Rd, not Tottenham. I owned a Maicoletta scooter in those days which out- paced the Vespas and Lambrettas of those days. Then out agin on bike round to Patricias house and on to Capitol Winchmore Hill (if in money) or Queens, Palmers Green. . She was there when I was there in 1940s. History I was just 15 and left school to become the first employee your father Aubrey gave me my first job and I never looked back and went on to become a photographer in the RAF as national service was compulsory at 18 after I joined a Photo retail shop in Turnpike lane named A M DAVIS after I started my own career in Muswell Hill N10 Then went on to open 7 more shops before starting a Franchise called FOTOVALUE with over 1000 outlets throughout Europe allowing the owners to retain their own name with just banners to say the where part of Fotovalue. Holborn). I remember Tom I worked opposite him at Triangle Cars for 5 years in th 60s . Then for a short while it was a Menswear shop that sold high end suits, shoes etc. I have edited this comment because what it says was of a personal nature and could cause offence. Julia. The shop later became an extension to Gateway Film Productions (where I worked). 23 Green Lanes, Palmers Green, London N13 4TN, UK. Thank you for any help you can give We often played up the Wreck at the end of Lynbridge grdns where the parky Mr Moody and his co parky Mr Savage would chase us if we caused them any trouble! (appy Famiily memories agin, eh? I wonder if anyone remembers Dr Baxter who had a surgery in Hazelwood Lane at the junction with New River Crescent where the maisonettes are now? Since 1970 Ive lived in the Netherlands and from 1980 am the fortunate owner of a mint condition, unrestored 1963 Jaguar Mk 2, 3.4 litre. us failed musicians worship for evermore.no rush puttin the latest grandaughter Reenie to bed..ope she gets on the bandstand soon shes got the lungs for it and we may need er thirty shillins a week to pay orf the mortgage.Annyway (am I keepin you up?) Ray. I used to by comics from him in the 60s. Contact . Helen. Bruno would leave the bar at 9.30pm each night, snooker cue in hand and walk to the Cock Tavern for several beers & a few games of snooker. I have a friend who is bit older than me who has lived up near Hedge Lane all her life and she might be able to enlighten us about that mystery when I can contact her. Later, I remember seeing my very first E Type Jaguar outside the shop with a number plate personalised JA number forgotten. Baptist I used tio get my school uniform in Evans & Davies. Lovely doctor. Doms also made excellent onion omelettes. I had some really good teachers and friends I missed a lot when we moved. hang across the window pegged on string!!! Remember John Menzies where I used to buy records in early 70s. I remember having lunch with you on quite a number of occasions when I came down after moving to Bedfordshire, then Milton Keynes. There was a garage forecourt at the top of Hedge Lane where in intersects with Green Lanes, Was that a WW2 bomb site does anyone know? I remember the Bamboo I used to go there a lot. Can somebody help with this? Palmers Green LI FE www.palmersgreenlife.co.uk. Annyway Mike Ovenden was our form springboard expert at both Barrowell and Arnos Grovetho I seem to remember that Jackie Brown at the Pool was overall open diving champion. Patricia loved the picturesbut for me the sing along organ player at Capitol Winchmor ill.. why did we did disagree occasion like.ladies may comment, no rush. Do you John manses I use to buy my records in the 70s and 80s, Lived in Palmers Green from 1966 to 1987. A quaint . The one on the right going North was Cullens The coffee machine was dark red and black.Cullens also had another outlet nr the Cherry tree at the end of the Mall. I remember once using the underground public toilet at the triangle and sure there was an assistant there in the days before we considered disabled people. 213 p. 239 halftone & black & white line illustrations. Best wishes Founded in 1901 by my grandfather, but was knocked down in the 60s to make way for the widened North Circular? Organising A Cremation Funeral In Palmers Green. also the restuarant above the sweet shop in Green Lanes which was opposite the Queens Cinema? Local records mention a Palmers Field in 1204 and a Palmers Grove in 1340. Intended for professional and scholarly audience. Hello Brian, Im so glad you remember Dr Baxter. Also Broody and Hicks who sold cameras in the 1970s. You might remember the Saturday boy who wrote the window tickets and went on to be a successful photographer in the eighties. Hi David, yes, I remember Keiths Cars being there for many years &, as Richard S says, it is now a tyre dealer and I remember Pitmans just opp. Wishin you Happy New Year! Michael do you remember Mr Forkin at St. Michaels school Tottenhall Rd.arranging a boxing ring with proper gloves in the playground afternoon break with you & Everett Houghton as contenders? He even used to ask children for a tip! Hi Jenny, I took a photo of these homes about this time (1966) before the fire for a school photo project on old buildings I believe they were called Skinners Alms Houses. I lived in New River Crescent 1950, 60s and 70s. I bet you noticed big changes to the shops in PG when you went to The Fox. Bamboo cane area dividers, Italian shiny coffee machines and music.. We used to have all the hire vans parked on the forecourt in front of what clearly had been a showroom. Green Lanes has changed so much since we were youngsters especially the current work on the cycle lane which is quite an issue locally. The Dance Hall suffered badly but most of the fatalities were caused by the wrecking of the shop premises opposite on both corners with Sidney Avenue. I practically lived in the Bezzaz Coffee Bar!!!! This isnt the place to get involved in that discussion so Ill just say that changes arent always for the best! Also the first Wimpy Bar at the triangle in the mid 60s? Miss Bellefontaine was the head teacher at Hazelwood Infants school during the forties, I know as I attended that school. (with Pa as escort we did go to the Queens later on seein Cat an the Canary (Bob Hope, avent bin able to sleep in a bed with edboard since and Pinnochionightmares cos o the Whale swallerin (Jonah?) He must have spent a lot of time fixing kids injuries as my memory of him was from when I fell off my scooter whizzing round the garden and I damaged a tendon in my leg. Sylvia & Pennie have jogged my memory of Doms cafe in Palmers Green. Ho for the old days, Mike, (have you still got the Roller!?) Sylvia. Just request to join and add your own memories and photos. (opposite Courts Furnitures?) The Roberts toyshop changed its name in the mid 70s to Zodiac if I remember correctly. The only place Ive ever found an equivalent to Doms, is in the home of ice cream, Italy and thats a long way to go for a cornet!!! Remembered the lift in Evans & Davies, Grouts, Courts, Bishops (supermarket), Stephen Gracey estate agents, A Legg & Sons hardware (now Occasional Half pub), Bakers Oven, Tesco (supermarket and a smal local one between Kelvin and Melbourne Aves). memories those were the best days. Was the camera shop you are thinking off Camera Craft just beyond the top of Osborne Road and some way short of Hedge Lane? Miss Bellefontaine was head of junior school. Mum was Pool Attendant at Barrowell Green but we still had to join those long queues to get in..so long a waitso full had to wait as Mrs. Barry only allowed the extras in as people left. I bought my first motorised bike from them, a cycle master, which had an engine in the back wheel. Between Windsor Road and Park Avenue was a greengrocers called Burkes, there were 2 Janes and Adams shops, the toy shop already mentioned, plus 2 doors from that there was the electrical shop an old sign saying Ultra Radio was still up on the front at the first floor (last time I looked). Remember Reg Hart who has posted here- he was interested in meteorology back then. I ad no spare cash for new comics in them daysdid you ever deliver the EagleIm payin 8.00 a copy for the good ones now.. My grandparents moved to Palmers Green in 1910. When the V1 flying bomb attacks on London began in the summer of. I think that this garage was called Saul & Slatters a John Slatter who worked there, married my cousin Margaret Cantwell in 1962. But you are right about the window where you got served. My taste dress-wise (MENS) was Bricks across the road, specially them T-shirts. Ha ha yes and he had those bottle top glasses Dr Meldrum !!! Hospital. To be one of the first Irish or Greek families to settle in the area? One was called the UK tea company. Miss Hughes was head of the infant school. Both my cousin and I remember the shop and the smell but not the name of it. This was a more calm shop selling much the same things as the other one. I worked in Tesco in Palmers Green when I was 16 years old in roughly 1990. Annyway my best buy camera wise was a Thornton Pickard plate (Camera Craft) in original tweed hold-all includin tripod. Memories: You can, and others, can share memories at the bottom of the page including photos and stories; Donations: . I think Myrtle Road was built in 1950, is that right? We lived in Osborne Road (1955 ) but then moved to Old Park Road just over 10 years later where we stayed until the late 70s. I also remember Vic Madden the window cleaner. What a job to have, stuck up there in this rather dark shop every day!! But we used to dangle fishing lines from the river bridge in Hazelwood lane in an effort to catch something. He was very tall, very Scottish and prescribed bottles of Minadex (green and foul tasting) for almost all childhood ailments! Opposite Grouts well almost. An elderly man worked there and a younger surely man. I also bought a BSA Winged Wheel from them and had it fitted to my pushbike on which I commuted from Palmers Green to Tottenham Hale every day for my Apprenticeship at Keith Blackmans Ltd. A female named Jane lived above the J&A shop. Was Mrs Dark the wife of Mr. Winchester) and was amazed when on a route march or exercise and dreading the eventas soon as we turned the corner from barracks, everyone from Sergeant to PTI had to fall out for a smoke. I lived in Pasteur Gardens from 1960 to 1966, and went to Oakthorpe School and the Latymer. The owner, Bruno & his wife lived opposite in Green Lanes 3rd floor above Phiipes: Ladies Hairdressers. Amazing to find others to share memories with from those times. The walls were lined with painted tongued and grooved wood. An abundance of dress shops and Evans and DaviesAn unforgetable shop that sold everything. I used to get birthday cards and my daily paper there. Hello Brian, thank goodness Im not losing the plot! I must have been about 5 or 6. I remember Dr Baxter well, he plastered up my left hand when I broke a finger playing leapfrog at school! When we were small the barber put a piece of wood across the arms of the chair for us to sit on or we could not be seen in the mirror! I lived next to the Bird In Hand Pub in the early 79s, but my grandparents used to own a toy and Oran shop on the corner of Tottenham road and wolves lane. Im doing some research on my family who lived in Tottenhall Road where teenagers and young adults hung out. We always had nice Rose bushes ! More please! There were a couple of shops where fresh coffee was roasted and ground. Also, as memory has been shown to be reconstructive in nature, Loftus and Palmer predicted that the wording of a question could influence recall. Singing Tom used to give me all the flower heads to play with. Cullens sold loose biscuits from large tins and lots of different dried fruits and unpacked ingredients that could be bought in any quantities and were then bagged in paper bags. She showed us the brick steps built under the ground floor windows. Hi Mitchell thank you for fillinin some potoles,, The guy that ran it looked like Carlos out of Crossroads . yes recall them well. remember the milkman coming round with his horse? Ive only just found your comment. Barrowell Green pool was always on the cards in the summer! I have a friend who grew up in Palmers green and he says that there was no Tesco in Palmers green?!! I have so many memories of Palmers Green in the late 1940s [through to the present day] that I could be here all night, tomorrow and for the next month typing them up. CameraCraft shop. Happy times Hazelwood Primary School, Hazelwood Lane youth club, the Rec on sunny days. Anyone remember him? Seiferts (e the owner of the Studebaker Car and Parker Pen (2/6d for cesstificats after the War) practice. Syds daughter, Jill, is my Mum, now living in Midhurst, W.Sussex and still thriving, thankfully. Sadly the open air pool no longer exists, I believe it has been replaced by our Council recycling centre on that site. Janes and Adams was my first job after leaving school circa 1959. There were something over 50 people killed as the dance had just ended and many had left the dance hall to get buses in Green Lanes. One called Bourlet (nr Smokers Paradise) & Hinds which was almost opposite I think. Up until the purchase of the motorised bike I used to cycle in every day from Muswell hill. In my form 5 of us went on to become teachers.so much for the 11+ . Ill call you a Fcab etc. I still hanker for an ice cream like Doms scraped onto a cornet with a spatula not scooped! I also remember going to the Intimate Theatre with my mother every Tuesday evening. He played an accordion and the drums for many of the big orchestras and hotels in central London. No, RIchard is it was definitely Jays but I think it was further down towards Bowes Road. One in Tottenhall Rd, Drakes at The Cambridge roundabout & at the Triangle, another at Empire Parade and Dewhurst in Green Lanes opp Tottenhall Rd. On the corner of Aldermans Hill and Devonshire Gdns was the United Dairies shop. I used to buy my records from Ashwells which was next door to Lloyds Bank. Annyway after ostilities e also gigged (very fashionable nowadays, eh?) !955, Concriptd to the Rifle Brigade..married Patricia (Winchmore ill 1957) where was Doms in the igh street?. When he retired (1956 ish), I was 11 and my family were transferred onto Dr Stewarts list. People were lying everywhere because a bus had been crushed, and there had been a dance going on in the hall above Pitmans College which had been bombed. It may be that your memory of PG is slightly off but, as I recall, it was the Home & Colonial grocer shop and it was on the left hand side as one went north towards Winchmore Hill; it was on that side shortly before Devonshire Road, the Fox Inn and Fox Lane, possibly about where the Red Cross shop has been in recent times. Do you mean `Tom the flower man at the Triangle next door to Woolworths? Park, and the slide which we used to grease with candle wax in the fifties so that it was so fast you went flying of the end! Do I get commission on the bet payout? Ray in Cornywall. As previous I lived in the Larches from 1938 at no 64. And a bycycle from J&A (Rudge) set me free on those open roads, YHA and the romances. Still beautiful. Koubes here are also a match for Aroma with a slightly deeper, sweeter taste from sticky caramelised onions. 8.1K members Join group About Discussion About this group This worldwide local history, nostalgia and memories group has been active since 2012, we have thousands of photos in our albums and many memories and photos being posted daily. I guess that makes you and she cousins! Later, they raised us four kids in York Road. Then, of course, the great Grouts with its artistic window displays! Janes & Adams was my favourite shop in Palmers Green. And another question on the same side as the H&C but further towards Winchmore Hill opposite a photographers, there was a Jaguar garage. Palmers Green, Greater London Old Photos, Historic Maps, Local History Books and Memories of Palmers Green Frith photos prompt happy memories of our personal history, so enjoy this trip down memory lane with our old photos, historic maps, local history books, and memories of Palmers Green. very posh! I also went to Bowes Road School but only from 1952 to 1953 in the infants. our school on fire by insendery bombs ,also the sky appearing like a red sun set and being told it was London docks on fire.mr rodwell Mrs green are. In the 50s there was a shop towards the end of Palmers Green (on the right hand side as you went toward Winchmore Hill) that ground coffee. Church under rev. Once in, the shop was very narrow and long with coats of all sorts hanging along the walls. Some are specific others generic. Anyone remember The Quick Service Cafe on the corner of Bowes Rd and N Circular run by I still as the familly piano bungin up my front room, opin the latist sprog will unravvell its potential. Was that called Pritchards or am I mixing it up with somewhere else? Also went to Hazelwood Lane school then to Winchmore school previously. I grew up in Palmers green I manage to find scraped ice cream every now and then but nothing like the taste I remember. Thanks David, my son has just shown me some pictures of that dreadful scene at Sidney Ave but I think I must be losing the plot because I really dont remember it being a bomb site after the war. Thanks very much Saul & Slatter it was! David Way of Winchmore Hill Broadway? Sue Beard, who runs the Palmers Green Jewel in the North website, has discovered a 15-minute film about Grouts , the former Palmers Green emporium of tea towels, socks, knickers and corsetry that brought a glimpse of pre-WW2 (and even pre-WW1) shopping into the 21st Century. My parents told me that they, as newly weds, lived in a flat over the Dolls Hospital in Palmers Green. The old boy used to stand outside and entice you in with phrases like.this one would suit youetc. I remember juke box was playing a lot of Take these Chains From my Heart and set me Free. In the window there was a (seemingly) huge coffee grinding machine. although i dont remember it having a cafe, maybe it did before my time though. Truly some of the best times of my life in Palmers Green. Far nicer than some well known overated areas of London. Research prior to the following two 1974 experiments suggested that people are quite inaccurate when asked to report numerical details regarding events. Cafe between Gambles an J an Adams (Ma says not goin in there Raymond, too cheep ) on our way back from The Palmadium. Haveyou and your family lived or worked inthe Palmers Green area for donkeys years? Did you have a brother named Terry Hicks. The sound of a siren still turns my stomach over to this day. Best regards, Nick Hurst. Stephen Woodward I recall Miss Bellefontaine Im exactly ten years younger that you and started at Hazelwood in 1963. Doms and the baker opposite were always good pitches! We had lunch at the Fox pub and then went for a stroll around Grovelands Park. Annyway she, (my Ma) also directed me to buy my first suit from them (powder blue with just a touch o pink pin stripes) for my first day to work in 1950. Your memories may come from non-local areas, this is permitted as long as the page content is mainly about our locality." Last updated: October 2015 Hi Anna, I remember the tea shop next to t he. Its best to just have fond memories of how it was Sylvia. A hardware emporium and a very old fashioned (even then) gift/tobacco /sweet shop toward the end of the parade. The manager in the 60s was Keith Small, very nice man who had a daughter Jacqueline. The smell really made me sick. Coronation fireworks display in the park. Seifert refused to save my an my Dads life in the 40Sannyway no ard feelins e saved my life later..,as for Tottenhall Roadmore our memories istories. I remember J&As when the windows were boarded, just a square foot to stare in. Our dentist was Mr Finkel and I remember a story about a wall falling down by his house and squashing someone! Winchmore School was my school from 1955-1960. I really love this website for bringing back all those memories stored in the depths of our brains. There was and old git who served behind the sweet counter. National Service. The garage was, or became Kennings opposite Camera Craft. Our Dad would pay the 2/6d, and pick us up 45 minutes later as he worked nearby. I am Geoffreys sister Carole. Try putting dance hall into search, or I will find the link for you later! What about the old corn merchant on the corner of Osborne Road and the tiny sweetshop nextdoor! Yes, and the gas fire which hissed and stuttered. Here in Cornwall too warm and damp this week for me as a farmer. Symms Davies tempering miss Bennett miss Edith Ashby miss Doris woods We moved to Crawley in about 1955 or 6. Probably some of my first photographs were taken there. Palmers green life feb14 final. We lived in Hamilton Crescent and the kids played in the Rec but it was short for Recreation Ground.lol. I wasnt as lucky as you & never actually ate at Doms though, but if I was very good my treat was the ice cream and I still have a sweet tooth to this day. I just recall the horse. Yes Bezazz coffee bar, went their most nights as well around 1964 onwards coffee, egg & chips, juke box, pinball machine, 3/6d last all night!..some faces Denis Day, Mick Stanton, Mick Smith, Dave Todd, Michael joannou, Michael De Bear,Wendy & Susan Smale, Laureen Blackwell, the cast goes on! I recall Miss Gibbs as having a scary face she had pictures of the Beatles up in the corridors and wore rather wayout clothes. The manager was named Mr Hemmings and his daughter Lesley was a good friend of mine in the Girl Guides at St Johns Hall, Thanks for your rememberins. Remember the old peoples home burning down in 1966.Buses were diverted down Windsor Road. Lefteris Bakery/Instagram. As I hadnt had any response to my original comment I was beginning to think I had imagined him. The shop later became Tesco. What a great guy he was. It was never built on, apart from a temporary building. Palmers Green - a nostalgic memory of Palmers Green Palmers Green My grandmother lived at 50 Old Park Road, opposite Bloomfield Park, and I went to school at Franklin House School in Palmerston Road from 1955 to 1960, then the Winchmore Hill Collegiate School from 1960 to 1962. AnnywayI bought my first camera from Mr Kalms (Dixons) Edgeware (Agfa Silette) on the knock (so much a week) and cycled to Edgeware to pay the monthlya Canon copy of the Leica followed f1.8 lens but paid its way at weddins and I think I was one of the first to get back with ome developed colour (Ferrania) to the celebrations in them days. Palmers Green N13, is lovely, a Edwardian area with plenty of independence shops, the parade of shops has beautiful building above them a lovely 1930s style park, a railway station journey to the countryside and Moorgate and properties are still very affordable. ps. Loved it there in palmer s green even earlier where l myself grew up too. My earliest memories of the site are from WW2 when, as a youngster in a pushchair I saw an aircraft being wheeled out of the building which stood there. I havent been back for many years but believe the Doms cafe is still there. Lived in Melville Gardens and Grenoble Gardens. After several meetings of our Catchreeling Society, girls were allowed to participate. I seem to remember it being a Vauxhall dealer then a Volvo garage (?Triangle motors), in the 80s & 90s. Think pool is still there. . Some boys from Winchmore worked for him on the window cleaning. We lived in Sidney Avenue from 1952 until 1961. Hi. Cameracraft now theres a blast from the past too! February Edition Issue 12. Dordrecht, Netherlands. Where are you now and all the others from these years? The coffee shop WAS on the right going towards Winchmore Hill, surely? Until it closed. Dark..my teecher at Winchmore ill and Southgate County Grammer, Fox Lane, do you remember? I have fond memories of Palmers Green, as I worked at the station from aged 15 in 1963 till 1968. This was run by a short tubby lady. I cannot recall any other bombs round that area. So my boyhood dreams finally became reality! I would supply Aubrey with items from the palmers green branch by which time I think you where becoming involved in running the shop KELVIN PHOTOS Ma used to send me there up Hedge Lane in the school olidays with a shillin for my lunch (includin tip)I remembers the custard. James what year were you at Ambrose Fleming , I was there from when it first opened in 1962 [ I think ] until 1965 . The following year came a new head Mrs Cannon in 1968 I went up into the juniors and the head there was Mrs Gibbs . Sylvia. One old lady lost her life in the fire. Can you remember the name of it? He said the new housing development that is now Myrtle Road just off The Fairway (where I was born),was built on the site of a Nursery. In 1961 the company was acquired by Car Mart Sales Ltd, but retained its name. Some of the musicians achieved International fame (not meI was on drums) . Once purchased the items would be carefully wrapped in brown paper and tied with string before the exciting moment (for me anyway) of paying. I used to have a paper round in the paper shop top of hedge lane and green lanes in 1963 I got fifteen Bob a week Mr pogson was the proprietor does any body remember him. They were great times at that school but I then left at 11 to go to Ambrose Fleming Technical Grammar School for boys, what an awful place, hated every minute and left at 15. Yes, Dave, I knew Vic Madden by sight only, in the early 60s. Further up another pet shop Hoopers? Remember the bovril machine. I used to work weekends 1970-1972 for Kenning Car Hire which Im sure was probably on the site you recall. Yes, very tall, Scottish doctor with elderly receptionist and very noisy gas fire. I have lots of childhood memories about Palmers Green Railway Station. two of the teachers l remember and Mr bennet was our headmaster,.true air raid shelter was at the top of the play ground. Sylvia 0 I grew in in NRC, What was there before the maisonettes were built. Lorna, I now have an ad for Jays Stores Surrey branches, a 1952 invoice from Palmers Green branch and a photo of their location, adjacent to Spencer Avenue, posted on my page. Will email direct We were spoilt for choice for cinemas at that time with the 2 in Palmers Green, Southgate, Regal at Edmonton, Enfield and Bowes Road and they all had a different atmosphere. He was very stern and terrified me! We used to have a grocers van come around each week, does anyone remember Mr Meadows who ran this van? Sylvia , there was a WW2 bombsite at the corner of Sidney Ave/Green Lanes near Bowes Rd it was used in the 50/60/70s as a car yard called Kieth Cars, no longer live in PG so not sure what stands there today. Dr Stewart was our doctor too. I was in my late teens when it was opened. My Godmother was a local schoolteacher in .1930 onwards ish ( Miss Una Cook). I have vague recollections of my mother taking us to what seemed quite a posh tea shop called Shepherds which was on Aldermans Hill opposite the park, does anybody remember this?
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