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What a red neck a#$ who, although had his views refused to state the other's views with a shred of dignity even, at least for saying Treadwell did love these bear's but was, sadly, misinformed perhaps from having no formal education or training on these majestic beings. I told him that if we had any more violations from him we would petition the U.S. magistrate to ban him from the park,. Have had zero use for coyotes ever since (the occasional now and again reports of one trying to wander off with someone's child hasn't helped). I find it very believable and insightful! LOL.Even dumber, I checked out of the hospital with the bullet resting on my aorta, went to the airport bar, had a few rum and cokes for the developing pain of the hematoma, then took a 9-hour flight to New York.The bullet finally traveled last year and a doctor removed it during surgery on my shoulder. (Treadwell 1997)if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-box-4','ezslot_4',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-box-4-0'); Mark Emery, a wildlife filmmaker and outdoor guide first saw Treadwell from the air in the early 1990s. There is no doubt that the sights and sounds of Tim being dragged away from camp by the bear horrified Amie to the point where she lost her mind with fear. case, leading to speculation that the camera was turned on by Amie. I know the bear was the one known as Quincy the Bear by Tim. However, I did know and observe Timothy Excellent research and writing conducted ethically with hardened integrity. I watched the grizzly man documentary and within the first few minutes, I was sure this young man was battling with some mental deficiencies. Had rounded a corner, surprised a rattler, rattles, scares horse, rears, she is thrown off back, concussion and also temporary blindness for about six days. Yup it was easy writing this knowing tim would want u to write what u feel. Always reminding myself that the more time I spend in grizzly country increases the chances that someday, something could go wrong keeps me on my toes at all times and always expecting things to go south at any moment. I wouldn't willingly go within 10 miles of that many half ton predators without at least a .45 preferably a double barreled shotgun as well. And while the couple had evaded danger so far in their two trips together before the summer of 2003, their third season with the bears would prove tragically different. Amie then walks over to Tim, and based on training in the hospital no doubt told Tim to lay still, but is then tested and driven away by the bear, and at this point in the attack I believe Tim realized that this was not a typical bear encounter, and that playing dead was not going to work and the wrong response, yelling at Amie to hit the bear!. Nothing wrong with that, but perhaps he was always disappointed that he wasn't more of an action hero, and deliberately put himself in dangerous situations to prove that idea wrong. You respect their world and them. Part 1 - The Myth I probably would have mailed this letter and anxiously waited for your reply had I, in fact, known who to properly address this to. Amie Lynn Huguenard was born in Buffalo, New York, on October 23, 1965. This is a work in progress. A greater idiot, I charged the guy.He shot me in the chest but I still played grizzly bear, running him down and beating the crap out of him.Stupid because I could have gotten another passport. 2001, Discovery Channel on camera interview. Self-styled bear expert Timothy Treadwell and innocent victim Amie Huguenard died in the jaws of an Alaskan bear. Jewel was not the only one to have a copy. The plain truth is he was the Village Idiot, left without adult supervision, with predictable results. Werner Herzog plays a more obtrusive role in this film than most documentarists would -- narrating and setting certain events in motion -- but he did not in fact create Timothy Treadwell, the ironically named crackpot who lived among bears in the Alaskan wilderness, eventually losing his . Having the presence of mind to turn a camera on with a bear just outside of a thin tent wall could only come from repetition, from someone who had done it many times. Just the meanest looking thing. Hopefully the end was quick. An on-site necropsy of Bear 141 revealed human body parts such as fingers and limbs. Mother Nature and all that lives in her world is a force to be reckoned with. Youre still able to be show honesty andempathy. Very possibly gay. Dead within 15 seconds.Some have interjected with their own imagination inventing that high velocity or 3 1/2" were used. He even once told David Letterman that they were nothing but party animals.. The ranger stated that she looked "as though she were peacefully asleep". In video footage recovered from the camp, there was at least some video taken days or hours earlier, showing Amie sitting on the ground as a large bear sits behind her within 10 feet. The fact that he was not killed earlier, just goes to prove that grizzly bears really want nothing to do with humans and would rather avoid us whenever possible, but will tolerate us, to a point. My reason Great article with new perspectives.Sad end of an extraordinary man and his love. She trusted TT, against her own instincts towards the end, and sadly paid the ultimate price.Great article about a sad and fascinating event. Only a damned fool faces man eaters unarmed and the park service is crazy to ask anyone to do so, the bears be damned. Amie had a kind of navet about her that added a real sweetness to her entire persona. Minor fact but this attacked happened at 1:58PM Alaska Time.. Overcast due to the nasty weather. Anyone that spends as much time in the field as Tim and I have, will no doubt have had similar experiences. That changed that night. Part 1 - The Myth So, the challenge for the coastal grizzlies isnt dealing with people its competing for food. I do not know why the bear is not correctly identified, after all this time. Timothy and Amie were planning to be picked up In front of this main tent was a large mound of mud, grass and sticks, five feet long, 4 foot wide, and 3 feet high. There is a possibility, as well as some speculation, that wilder unknown bears from the interior had possibly moved in, forcing out the bears Tim was used to seeing and interacting with each year. Wildlife biologist, Alaska Department of Fish and Game. What in the hell was Treadwell thinking. I think he was a severely mentally ill individual with a major death wish. The biggest problem was trying to get anywhere near them. It saddens me he ran with such a foolish group of people that clearly didn't care on bit for him. Timothy Treadwell studied grizzly bears during summer seasons for 13 years, before being killed by one of them. I spent five years studying wolves in the wild in Canada in the 1980's. Treadwell's story was a variation on a classic American tale. and food containers outside the tent Gilliland 2003, pg 10). Yes, the cubs are so cute but not your friends. should he lose the other one or it stopped working, which likely Bears in Katmai National Park typically begin to den sometime in October or November and go into hyperpagia in early September, as they try to gain as much weight as possible prior to denning by mass feeding. He assumed the risk of putting himself in the worst possible situation (hungry bears already late to start hibernating for the winter and scarce food to be found). Leave them be. (I have new details regarding thisto be addedbasically, Tim wrote out and signed a letter to the park service claiming that he had no living relatives, and should he be killed, to give his possessions and remains to Jewel Palovak). Tim honored nobody in life but the bears i have never heard him on tape speak of anyone but himself. Thanks for the informative article!That said, youve overlooked the possibility that Tim died because he was gay and that the bear was a homophobe. Wikimedia CommonsGrizzly Bears feeding at Brooks Falls in Alaskas Katmai National Park. A sober recount of what might have happened. Nor was bear 141 starving or desperate. You could chase a wolf off its kill and it would run away. He out stayed his welcome.2. It's possible this bear was responsible for the attack. Your right,this as a Hollywood film would be epic! Amie is cautious and afraid, the tent is a secure refuge in her mind. I honestly dont think he did any harm out there. I take it they never really discussed what Amy should do if Tim was attacked by a bear. Here is my theory of what took place that cold and stormy night. But it's still not enough to make a diagnosis without professional guidance. Kaflia Bay, along the Alaskan Gulf Coast, was one of Treadwell's favorite spots for bear watching, and he spent time there every summer. 175pp. Habituation to humans results in loss of fear. If you watch documentaries on Bart, he was actually considered a brilliant "actor." However, had we met, Tim and I would have no doubt had some heated discussions about how I thought he was doing more harm than good with his behavior in Alaska. Screw them. Lionsgate FilmsTimothy Treadwell gained widespread fame and notoriety for his interactions with grizzly bears, appearing on nationally syndicated talk shows and in schools as a bear advocate. It wasnt long before she was flying up to Alaska to spend portions of the summers with him among the grizzlies of Katmai National Park. while pointing to the right. I think initially he turned to heavy drugs to ease his pain w living life in the closet, and then, he turned to Wild Alaska, where he had no boundaries, labels, etc.His severe misstep was staying longer than usual that last summer. I got my words out but I wanted to say. When he investigatedin the light of day the barn door was torn open and one of his1500 to 2000 pound horses had been carried off. Thank you. I really appreciate it. After reading your excelent article which I stumbled across by chance and then looked up the Documentary my opinion is that by staying later than ussual in the year, most of the healthier well fed bears that were used to Tims pressence went into hibernation thus leaving their territory free for wilder more agresive less well fed bears who were desperate to put on weight to go into hibernation, these bears would not hessitate to kill and feed at the first oportunity they would have encontered.Another consideration I have is had Amie stood her ground after she initially startled the bear maybe Tim would not have been draged away as it basicaly became a fight over prey, . He was an old bear and Tim included footage of Quincy in the Grizzle Man Diaries, and Tim said they were great friends, which was sad, considering that Quincy was the old Grizzly bear that was identified by Jans as Bear 141, which had a lot of human flesh inside its stomach after the rangers killed it. 2003, Scene Investigatorif(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-netboard-2','ezslot_20',134,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-netboard-2-0'); We thank our friends at GPSTS.org for supporting us. No call stimulating upcoming doom for Amie. individual bears over the years. There are boundaries in the world of the bear, and in wilderness. Timothy Treadwell (born Timothy William Dexter; April 29, 1957 - October 6, 2003) was an American bear enthusiast, environmentalist, documentary filmmaker, and founder of the bear-protection organization Grizzly People. The object of Treadwell's affections turned on him this month, when he and his girlfriend, Amie Huguenard, 37, were mauled to death by an old male bear outside their tent in Katmai National Park in Alaska. The gruesome attacks, chronicled in the 1969 book Night of the Grizzlies by Jack Olsen, led to widespread policy changes at U.S. national parks to prevent the feeding of animals, remove trash and . 2004, On camera interview: Grizzly Man Movie. Liggett applauded the fact that Treadwell was winning fans for the bears, and was being more careful to warn people not to attempt what he did, but she and other park officials were afraid that one swipe of a paw would undo all that and result in a frenzy of stories about fearsome, people-eating grizzlies. Soon, Amie Huguenard reached out to Treadwell, thus beginning a relationship which would last for nearly six years. He loved nature. Excellent article about Timothy Treadwell. Sounds of the bear dragging Tim off, and the fading sounds of his screams indicate that Tim is being pulled and dragged into the brush and away from camp.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_2',117,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0'); As the tape comes to an end, the sounds of Amies high-pitched screams rise to a new level, much like what has been described as the sound of a predator call used by hunters to produce the distress cries of a small wounded animal which often attracts bears. All fake recordings so far have been under 3 minutes in length and the real tape is 6 minutes. anxious and antagonistic, due to the reduced amount of food I would have spent as many seasons as I could with him out there. The older, larger bear that killed Tim and Amie had been ear tagged in 1990 after the Valdez-Alaska oil spill as part of a larger research project, and had the number 141 tattooed on the inside of its upper lip. For starters, he changed his last name to his mother's maiden name. Jewel Palovak still holds the original tape and has no plans to release it. and was intent on checking them out. I never arrested him for drunk driving.We all do stupid things at times. Grizzly bears are wild animals and should always be treated as such, wild and unpredictable. The Pioneer awoke in the middle of the night to his horses screaming in the barn. I am impressed with this article. (more on this below) A short conversation ensues as Amie and Tim try and determine if the bear is really gone. Just recently I was given access to the first 2 minutes of the 6 minute tape. 2004, On camera interview: Grizzly Man Movie. Tims foolish disregard for his own safety, and over confidence dealing with bears in the past, luck really, not to mention his mistake of placing anthropomorphic values on bears, and disregarding established federal guidelines when photographing and camping with brown bears contributed to both Tim and Amies death. with her cub without a care about Tims presence. In fact, there is no evidence that Tim worked closely with the park service in any way. I have heard it and no it is not real but a fake or spoof. As far as inconsistencies with sound and distance. (Treadwell 2003), On Sunday October 5, 2003, sometime between 11:00 am and 12:00 pm, Tim and Amie make a satellite phone call to Jewel Palovak, program director of Grizzly People, and there was apparently no problem at that time. Treadwell studied grizzly bears during summer seasons for 13 . I slowly raised up and looked around, only to discover that a family of 6 coyotes had moved in behind me, the adult alphas sitting within feet of me while the pups played nearby. Indeed. On another occasion he was ordered by park rangers to remove a prohibited portable generator. 1997, Among Grizzlies: Living With Wild Bears in Alaska. Bears typically make very little sounds, and each fake recording has the sound of a bear roaring, growling, and making all sorts of noises. (Fulton 2004), Likewise, after reviewing the video tape made by Tim 10 days before he was killed, it is now believed that bear #141 was a bear that Tim had named Ollie, the big old grumpy bear. That was cutting it thin stated Ellis. I have to wonder though, Did Tim still think that grizzly bears were mainly harmless party animals as the bear attacked and then dragged him away from camp ? I like the fact that the author of this article has a strong background in brown bears/grizzlies and spent a lot of time with them as Tim did because I feel that gives not just an objective opinion, but an educated one (both in textbooks and by firsthand). (Ellis 2003, pg 4), Investigators combing the nearby area around the campsite discover what was left of Timothy Treadwell. The author states "bear #141 was a bear that Tim had named Ollie, the big old grumpy bear, and this is the bear identified by Hertzog in Grizzley Man as the bear that probably killed Tim and Amie. Treadwell was a diving champion in high school and had also received a swimming scholarship for college education. The article is great except that the author does not correctly identify the bear that killed and ate Tim and Amie. Now, they found parts of both Tomothy and his girlfriend inside two of the bears. That also weakens the piece just a bit (I am reluctant to say) but it's the truth. And everyone saw it coming except him. Katmai Park Ranger. You expressed compassion and kindness beside the facts. And thank you article writer. I remember once out at my bear viewing area sitting alone one day, and feeling a bit sleepy in the warm sun I decided to lay back and close my eyes for a moment, when I remember feeling that something was watching me. as much as i would love to feed a bear & show them affection, i know that in doing so i could inadvertently harm the bear, or a human. which had consumed both Timothy and Amie, had been in the area for a He was as useless as tits on a Bar hog, and his legacy is fitting- He ended as Bear Shit. There are no highways or skyscrapers in the world of the bear- but there are boundaries. during the struggle with the bear, turned the camera on, resulting Very well writtne , thank you for writing such a wild piece about a wild perosn. Ranger Gilliland moved in and fired a final shot killing the bear, states Ellis. Not to mention the temper tantrum he threw on camera cursing the park service personnel for harassing him. Took some digging. Ive been working on bears for a long time, and more and more Im convinced that most of the credit for bears and people getting along goes to the bears, said John Hechtel, a wildlife biologist with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game. Jewel states that no bears were poached while Tim was in Katmai, but that after he died 6 bears were poached within the park. After a few minutes, I decided to get up and walk across the meadow, only to have the whole family follow along beside me. At 3:20 pm, ranger Ellis joins up with two other park rangers at the airport and depart in a park service Cessna 206, with ranger pilot A. Gilliland at the controls and ranger D. Dalrymple in the back seat. Specifically learn about bipolar mania and hypomania. Park rangers called into the scene shot and killed the bear, who they estimated weighed over half a ton. This was a good read. Whew. My experience with camps like this is, there is always at least some garbage, trash or other food items laying around. Is there any pictures of the aftermath? Also, his constant abuse of drugs and alcohol. I appreciate and agree with your well thought out opinions. Now my take. At the very least we can learn from someone elses mistakes.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[320,50],'yellowstone_bearman_com-box-3','ezslot_12',110,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-box-3-0'); Night Of The Grizzly chronicles the last remaining moments of Tim Treadwells and Amie Huguenards lives, the discovery and investigation revolving around their deaths and what led up to their tragic end. The way he curses society and material things makes one wonder malibu? Likewise, we know from Tims diary that Amie was frightened of bears. But also, it sounds like the woman and man are about the same distance from the microphone, which you COULD argue that the man and woman HAPPENED to be positioned in a triangular position an equal distance from the camera. He mightve still alived had he stayed inside the tent when the bear was approaching, unfortunately his delusion cost the lives of 1 woman and 3 bears. keep on wondering how much time there was between that last A final note on the movie Grizzly Man. Well Written and the Closest Article to the Truth I think that is Out There, Bear #141 was the bear Tim called "Quincy the Bear". as a trusting mother came by and stopped a few feet from him to play NATURE ?? videotapes have been used to portray Timothy as reckless. Alpha, rule many Ignores that. When the confrontation was over, he claimed to have laid down and napped next to the sleeping bear. The harder garbage is to dispose of, and in this case all garbage had to be flown out by plane, the easier and more available it is for bears in the area to get to. U bash the guy and say u love him? He needed someone that cared enough to get him help. Deb Liggett, superintendent of Katmai National Park became sufficiently concerned about Treadwell that she met him for coffee in Anchorage several years prior to his death. There are several ways to determine whether one of these recordings is real or not. (Herrero 1985, Schullery 1992, et al). However, it is unknown whether bear #141 had ever gotten into or received some sort of food reward from humans. The attack and killings took place in camp the night before Willy Fulton flew in to pick Tim and Amie up. Once in the US, Tyke was sold to the Hawthorn Corporation and treated like an animal. You don't skimp on the tough issues either. Thanks so much for this detailed article which sheds so much light on this tragedy. where he spent weeks crawling and running through the brush. To me what he was doing had very little to do with protecting the bears, but a big publicity stunt to get attention he couldn't get as an actor.I put a lot of the blame on the Park Service for Tim's death. And exactly why Treadwell chose to return to Katmai so late in the year, and why Huguenard chose to follow him, has never been explained. bear (making noise, hollering and running towards it)(3) pick-up, they would need to be ready. Again, such a great read! The coastal version referred to in Alaska as brown bears (ursus arctos), most of whom would weigh in excess of 1000 pounds. So eating chef boy r dee wearing his oakley sunglasses and north face garb along with 3k dollar camera his satallite phone i mean i just dont no? Living by eating our garbage, with the occasional attempt at a child thrown in. Cambodia? All I know is anyone who beats on a bear with a frying pan has balls, no matter how long they hesitate. Great article. Apparently either Tim had asked Amie to turn the camera on, or Amie just turned it on out of reflex. One day, someone will verify that they've watched most of the still available footage. Then, learn about Stuckie, the mummified dog thats been trapped in a tree for over 50 years. Seen a lot of Tim bashing here. Be aware and be smart. I am SO glad I found this article again, so many years later! Best way of starting new week! overly aggressive. Thank you for all of the time and effort you undoubtedly put into writing this. 2006, Discovery Channel Special, on camera interview. But I was originally skeptical. What I do and would do during hypomania has me seeing this as it is. He was an habitual violator. I took a picture of him holding a water jug that was crushed by a bear. (Emery 2003), Emery goes on to say that Tim was camping near the coast and was nearly out of water, although a freshwater stream was nearby. He lived with his girlfriend/fiance Vicky Scott in Hessel, where they lived happily among the bears until she left to pursue a career in Npower. In some cases it's a fight to the death. Take a clinical psychology course and try again. a smaller, younger bear, possibly new to the area. There was also speculation that bear #141 was a bear that Tim had never had contact with in past years. I believe that, had Tim not walked away from the tent and towards the bear, and had stayed with Amie, or had they both left the tent and backed away from the tent giving the bear room, that the bear would not have attacked and both Tim and Amie would be alive today. As a spectator mostly from a distance, I have endeavored to offer a Homer, Alaska 99603 (AP Wire 2003), Tim and Amie extend their stay 1 week in an effort to locate a favorite female brown bear not seen earlier. I have read a whole bunch of articles on Tim and Amie's attack and death and in my humble opinion, I feel this is the closest to the truth there is. . The term Brown Bear is the more correct and scientific use for the specie. 1953, The Journals of Lewis and Clark: Mariner books. BDI's Warehouse Store is a limited catalog featuring only stocked items, priced exclusively for self-service online purchases made within the BDI Warehouse Store. Dear Bear Man;Excellent analysis, at least from my experiences with bears. Signs that he had grown up in a dysfunctional family. first life-changing visit to Alaska to the year of his tragic death. He was in a manic cycle which I think he liked and made sure to push himself into one during bear season. Do nothing but stay away from the bears. Wildlife filmmaker and outdoor guide. In fact im sure hunters got the idea from him as permitting increased unfortunetly he has popularizied the area to the world. Go Away! There are several books that have already been published, much too early in my opinion, and before most of the information I have been able to uncover has been released, all with their own theories and speculation. In the stomach of the bear theyd shot were other human body parts. Basic writing great so u wrote an article but wont write a book? I really loved this article. National Park ServiceThis 28-year old bear, dubbed Bear 141, was shot dead after park rangers found it feeding on Amie Huguenard and Timothy Treadwells remains. Grizzly Man is a 2005 American documentary film by German director Werner Herzog and featuring a musical score from Richard Thompson.. Did Amie try and keep the tents between herself and the bear when it returned? The more time you spend with grizzly bears increases the chances that the bear will someday get you. Thank you for your investigation. on 5th October. Rest Easy Tim & Amie. It was very interesting, and rather suspicious, that every time Tim reached out to the fox in the movie, the fox would nip at or lick his fingers. I would think twice from just sending this as a letter to Alaska Parks and Recreation Admin for fear I wouldn't get the intelligent and unbiased author, rather that my letter and others and future letters penned by prospective park employees or bear enthusiasts wishing to be the next Mr. Seus or Mr. Treadwell (at heart but with an educated mind) anyway, I would perhaps refrain from mailing this letter in search of seeking the experienced insightful author (name unknown) as it's recipient but,dreadfully, falling in the red neck ignorant hands of the pilot man who said outloud in a movie without much hesitation, that Treadwell got what he deserved. I just believe it has been edited. Soon after he arrived, he began working in restaurants while attending college on a swimming scholarship. I already have a lot of respect for you in your objectivity (I have a degree in English with a teaching minor in Writing) and this article is powerful, and does not attack Treadwell like many people who could not stay away from there opinions. 2003, Treadwell Incident Review Board Member. Bears have instincts like humans. I haven't found anything online but just curious if anyone took a little trip out there to take pictures or video and see what's changed. And during their summer visits, the bears were largely docile, spending much of their days resting and feeding, helping Huguenard to feel safe around them. It is possible that this incident would have occurred no matter what precautions Tim and Amie might have taken. Otherwise this would have sat in the archives gathering electronic dust. 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